ADJUSTED
ADJUSTED
100th Episode!
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In this very special episode of ADJUSTED we are celebrating hitting 100 episodes! Greg discusses the history of the show and the work that goes into producing an episode. Mike Gilmartin and Matthew Yehling discuss what it is like co-hosting and some of their favorite moments from the show. Also joining the celebration are a number of guests who sent their congratulations on hitting this milestone!
Season 8 is brought to you by Berkley Industrial Comp. This episode is hosted by Greg Hamlin.
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For music inquiries, contact Cameron Runyan at camrunyan9@gmail.com
Hello everybody and welcome to Adjusted. I'm your host, greg Hamlin, coming at you from beautiful Birmingham, Alabama, and with me today are two of my co-hosts. I'll turn the mic over to you, matt, if you want to introduce yourself again.
Speaker 2Hello everyone. This is Matthew Yaling. I'm joining Greg and Mike from St Louis, missouri, along the banks of the mighty Mississippi.
Speaker 1And we've also got Mike. Mike, you want to take the mic?
Speaker 3Yeah, I'll say Michael Gilmartin, since Matt said Matthew, I'm very formal. Today. I am with Key Risk out of Greensboro, north Carolina. I'm a little bit miffed, greg, that you have me as C on the host list instead of B. I'm not sure what Matt did to be B, but sorry, matthew. But yeah, excited to be here.
Speaker 2Trying to be professional.
Speaker 1Michael, the only person who's allowed to call me Gregory is my father-in-law. When I talked to him about marrying his daughter 20 years ago, he said I have a son that's named Craig and I can't have a Greg and a Craig in the family. So if you want this to happen, you're going to be Gregory. So I was like sure. So if you call me that, I'm going to be like, okay, it's my father-in-law. So well, it's great to have everybody here today. This is a fun one we just want to celebrate. Today we're actually recording our 100th episode of Adjusted, which is absolutely insane when you think about how much content we put out there, how many guests we've had, and this is really just a great opportunity to bring on some of the folks that have put time and energy into this and talk about how we got here, where it's heading in the future and as well as highlighting some of the people who maybe didn't get a chance for everybody to see what they do and how they help. So I thought I'd just first talk about the origins of the podcast myself.
Speaker 1So this was in the pandemic, and that's a kind of a dark time for me at least, probably for some others where we like we're all stuck in our basements on our laptops working for 18 months trying to like wait out that time, like, well, some of the traditional things we're doing we can't do. What about doing this? And at that time I'd never really thought about doing a podcast. I like to listen to them and I told our marketing team that I'd be willing to do it only if I could get Claire Musselman to do it with me, who at the time was with Connell Western, which is a Berkeley company, because my social media following was pretty low and I was like I don't really think anybody but my mom is going to listen to this. It's probably still the case, mike, but I was like, hey, if I could bring her in, like maybe some others.
Speaker 3I still don't think anybody listens to it. Greg, you tell me that there's like what? 30,000 downloads, or whatever. 10,000 downloads, it's all your mom, I think.
Speaker 1She just uses. Go to sleep.
Speaker 2The tens of listeners, the tens of listeners. It's great.
Speaker 1That's right, but anyway, so we that's how we kicked it off and we didn't know what to name it. So we literally had a contest between our two companies for all the employees to come up with names, and we had so many funny names somewhere I've got a list of those. I should probably find that and share them. But we had all these different names and then finally somebody one of our interns at the time put in the word adjusted. I was like that's perfect, one word, totally simple, and that kind of gives us a direction to take this thing as we were trying to think about what this would be about. So that's how the name actually came about. And then the next challenge was I was told well, we need to have some intro music, and at the time I was trying to figure out how to come up with original music so that we didn't have to pay somebody like royalty rights or get in trouble with somebody. So I had a friend of mine and I won't say who it is, but a friend of mine who I asked, who is a musician and has recorded some things nationally, and I thought, hey, maybe this guy will do me a solid and of course we can compensate him something for this. And then when I asked, I said like I need a 30 second original clip. Can you help me out with that? He's like, sure, I'm like what would that cost? And he's like $10 billion. I don't remember what the amount was, but it was thousands. And I was like I'm not doing that, this is like a podcast.
Speaker 1Then I called a different friend of mine, cameron Runyon, and he's the guy you're hearing now play it. That I knew growing up in Indianapolis. His dad was the librarian for the Indianapolis Symphony so he would have to re-compose the music to meet the number of folks they had in their symphony and so he's pretty talented and all their kids played like five instruments and so he's kind of like I'd say, like a hippie rock band guy in Seattle. So I asked him like would you do something for me? And he's like, yeah, sure, I was like what's it going to cost? He's like I don't know sandwich. So literally like we wrote him a check it might have been $100 or something to do that intro music. And he went to a restaurant in Seattle that's called Hamlin's Sandwich Shop and he's like I'm eating a sandwich right now at Hamlin's Shop with the money from the music. So if you hear Cameron Runyon, that's his story, and if anybody's interested in reaching out to him for more work than that, he's not expensive and he's a pretty cool dude. So that's how the music came about.
Speaker 1Now, jacob, you came in a little bit later. Jacob's on right now, so he's in the background. He doesn't always make it onto the audio part of the podcast, but when did you start editing the podcast, jacob?
Speaker 4podcast, Jacob. Well, I don't remember the year, I think it was end of 2019, early 2020. Taylor was leaving because she had gotten a new opportunity somewhere else, was moving out of state, something along those lines. And let's see, I think the first time it got brought up we were in a company meeting and you threw my name out and one other employee's name out as possible replacements for Taylor and I was kind of paying attention, if I'm being honest, and then all of a sudden I was like wait, what am I getting volunteered for now?
Speaker 1You got to love the voluntold right. So, Jacob, you had a huge background in editing podcasts, right?
Speaker 4Oh yeah, lifelong pursuit. No, I'm just kidding. I had done absolutely nothing with podcasts. I had done nothing with audio editing. I consider myself relatively technically skilled, just not in audio. So that was a fun learning curve.
Speaker 1So, just for folks who are curious, so when we do one of these episodes and I always say this to Matt, mike and our guests it's sort of like when you I have teenagers. So when they take pictures of themselves on whatever Snapchat, they have all these filters that make themselves look amazing. Nobody looks how they look on Snapchat and, honestly, the audio podcast that you're listening now probably is closer to that, believe it or not, because there's editing that we do to clean things up and make sure we all, you know everything looks good sounds great. How long does it take, jacob, for you to edit one of these episodes? If you, you know, let's say, a half hour, 45 minute episode, how much time do you spend cleaning it up, cutting stuff out, all that kind of stuff?
Speaker 4Well, that's very dependent on the guests. Greg, you're pretty consistent, so you don't sway that editing time much. But I would say for every one minute of audio that we record, I spend between five and eight minutes editing, so five to eight times the length of the podcast for podcasts.
Finding New Co-Hosts for Podcast
Speaker 1So just I just thought that's kind of cool insight of, like, what he's doing behind the scenes and he says I'm pretty consistent, so I don't move the needle, but that doesn't mean consistently good. So I think I probably caused a lot of editing for him. And then, for those who didn't know, you know, shortly after we launched the podcast, within the first six months, claire moved on to some new opportunities. She's teaching at Drake now. So, if you're interested in connecting with her, she's a professor, she's still in the industry, but more on the teaching side than actually working for carriers, and she's doing some things outside of this realm. But I need a new co-host. So we're trying to figure out like, well, what do we do? We're six months in. I don't know what to do, who do we ask? And so if you look at that period, right after that we started just test driving people and I knew Mike and Matt and I reached out to them to see if they would get involved. Mike, what were your thoughts when I reached out to you about doing this?
Speaker 3I mean you know how good can Greg's podcast be? Probably came to mind first. Podcast B probably came to mind first. I hadn't listened to one. Does anybody listen to this thing? Honestly, I mean we joke about that. But like I love listening to podcasts, I think the biggest thing I thought was like who is the audience for like MSAs and settlement discussions and pharmacy benefit manager discussions. But you realize quickly in doing it that like the conversations you have are very engaging and that's my favorite part about it. Frankly, I mean I'll listen to the episodes after they come out. Sometimes I generally listen to other people's. I don't like to hear myself talk, but they're just fun to have conversations with people. It's nice to get to know some of these folks that I've never met before. It's nice to have the conversation. So I think it's been enjoyable. But yeah, at first I was like who is listening to a Work Comp podcast?
Speaker 1You know what's crazy? Mike is like the ones that I think are going to be the most dry, that I'm like nobody is going to want to hear about Medicare compliance and that one will have like a ton of views or listens and then we'll do one that's like super fun and I'm like people are going to be interested in this one and then like it doesn't head, so you can never figure it out. I think sometimes the more complicated topics bring people in because they really want to know, like they want to understand it and they don't want to, man, they have to know it Like nobody wants to know CMS.
Speaker 3They're required to know it for their job and they must listen, Like I don't. I mean, we need to find more of that, Like what are people required to do? And then we, just we hone in on that.
Speaker 5Love that.
Speaker 1I love that. And then Matt you you know I reached out to Matt primarily because Matt's company focuses on access insurance, so he's hitting all the most complicated medical stuff and I thought I want somebody who's an expert on that side or who's living in that world every day. So, matt, can you tell me a little bit about your thoughts when we brought you in and how it's been for you?
Navigating Unpredictable Podcast Moments
Speaker 2Yeah, I think I had similar thoughts to what Mike was saying, like who's going to listen to this? And are people really interested in the workers' comp world? How many tens of listeners can we pick up with this? But it's been surprising because I think the guests and I know we're going to talk about you know favorite shows and everything. But I think, uh, I think the guests make it entertaining and we never know really what's gonna happen and there's just a variety of things. So the variety and the guests I think make the show. The better engaged the guests are, the better the episode are.
Speaker 2And I think from listening to some of these I'm really like man, that's going to be a good one. I really want to hear what that guy has to say. And then I'm I probably shouldn't say this, but I'm sometimes disappointed because I was like man that could have gone another, a whole, nother direction. Sometimes the direction shifts and we have episodes where the person just riddles off the answer. Like you know, you kind of give them a baseline of here's the questions or types of questions we're going to ask, and they just answer all those questions before you even ask any of them and it's like, wow, that that wasn't exactly how we wanted it to go, but it you know we it goes all right anyway. But now it's similar to what Mike was saying and who's going to listen to this? But it's been an interesting journey. I think I probably got the alternate because Mike probably couldn't make these things because he's so much better than me, so I got the alternate. Well, matt doesn't have anything going on, he'll fill in at a pinch.
Speaker 3I appreciate it. I'm glad you said it. I was feeling a lot of pressure. I'm glad you said it. I didn't want to say it. Lot of pressure, I'm glad you said it, I didn't want to say it. I'm really glad you acknowledged it.
Speaker 1I'd like to thank my family for this award. I'm totally staying silent on this.
Speaker 3I'm totally staying silent on this. What I heard Greg say was Matt understands complicated things. Mike is very simple-minded, so we need him on the hard stuff.
Speaker 1There you go, there you go. I have six kids and I always say, like if you say to one of your kids wow, you're really smart.
Speaker 7The other five only hear I'm dumb.
Speaker 1then it's just crazy. Like I'll compliment one of them and then, like the other four or five are like what do you think So-and-so is the smartest. I'm like I didn't say that at all, just said you were really smart. Well, one of the things that's been fun along the way, like you said, we meet so many interesting people and, not having ever done anything like this, it's harder than you think, I think. A lot of times people don't realize how much pre-work there is.
Speaker 1I put these outlines together, we have to come up with the questions we want to ask, we have to find the guests, we have to get them vetted, we have to get them comfortable to do the podcast too. And then, just like Matt said, like you know, there's not a script. There's like some general topics we want to hit and we kind of get used to ping-ponging back and forth how we want to do that. But you never know, some of these guests have very pre-prepared responses. So then you kind of have to work to kind of get them comfortable. So, mike, in your time doing this, what's one of the funniest things you can remember?
Speaker 3in one of the episodes we recorded I I mean I won't say what episode it was, because I mean I think the I don't know if it's funny, um I know where you're going.
Speaker 3I know exactly where you're going with somebody and about halfway through I realized because I'd done enough of them I realized like jacob was gonna have to edit out pretty much everything this person said because it just was not things that we would want to have aired. So like halfway through the episode I found myself like trying to answer the questions for you and like be really long winded and like come up with answers. And then I listened to the podcast afterwards. It was literally just like me and Greg talking. I mean, the other guy was in there a little bit, but it was pretty much just me and Greg talking. And I remember calling Greg right after the episode and I was like are we going to be able to use this one or are we going to scrap this? He was like I don't know, let's see what happens after we edit it.
Speaker 3But halfway through but it's to Matt's point things happen in a podcast where either they answer all the questions up front, or like it doesn't go down the road you wanted it to go down, or like you disagree with people sometimes, or like yeah that's probably not a view we want to have shared on here, and it's not to say we censor anybody, but like there are certain things you can and can't say on a podcast through an employer, right, and so it just that that sticks out to me, because I remember halfway through I was like there's no way we're going to use any of this stuff I.
Speaker 1I remember thinking the same thing. I'm like this is going to be a lost cause. And then Jacob worked magic on that and we were able to actually get some really good content out of that and the vibe that didn't really fit our brand of adjusted we were able to kind of salvage.
Speaker 3So I could tell Greg wasn't loving it when he started to ask me the questions directly. I guess I'm the guest now. Okay, that makes sense. I'm answering the questions.
Speaker 1So for our big listeners, you're going to have to just try to guess. We're not going to tell you. You have to listen to all of those episodes and try to figure out which was the one that we edited. But Jacob definitely has done a lot of awesome work in the background. Sure, matt, you funniest episode.
Speaker 2I think the and I think you called it out when we redid it. But we had one episode. The audio was just terrible and I knew while we were doing it it was going to be terrible and we kind of teased like, oh yeah, I think we think we can save this. But then we literally had to call back in and record the whole thing and it was a really shame, because the first time we did that episode it was excellent, like the answers and the exchange was excellent, but unfortunately the audio I think they were just going straight through the computer and I think maybe that's when you started sending microphones out or whatever. But you're like, hey, we got to up the game here. So it was more like funny from like disappointing. You know, kind of like man, we should just stop this now or we should have called him out.
Speaker 2I think we've gotten a lot better with that over the last couple of years, but it was an early on episode. We tried to salvage the whole thing. It was probably before Jacob was even involved in the background and it was just terrible from that perspective. So it's kind of a looking back learning moment. We redid it. The are still, you know, on par. But I just remember being kind of like let down, like that the first recording didn't keep because there's so much better content and it's like you can't replicate this, like you kind of. We tried to go back and you have the same vibe, but it was like that he was a little upset because it was like the second time doing this and it was like I, I'm giving you my time, what are you doing, like you know so, but that was kind of a funny looking back moment. At the time it probably was painful for Greg and, but the looking back growing moment, I think we've gotten a little better on that.
Speaker 1Yeah, we definitely learned a lot from when we first started and I remember that and it was so frustrating when you're like we put this time in and now we've lost it and we had to redo it. And it's still a decent episode. But you're right, that first one was even better if we could have gotten it out there, and some of it's just organic. You can't recreate it. You know it happens or it doesn't, so definitely agree with that. I think for me, the one that gave me the most heart palpitations is we were doing one on tech. I can't remember who my co-host was. Might've been you, Matt.
Speaker 9I think I was on that one.
Speaker 1Yeah, and literally while I'm doing one on tech, like claims technology, my computer and everything gets like the blue screen of death and totally crashes in the middle of the recording. While I'm doing an episode on technology, and like it took me I don't know five, eight minutes to get my computer rebooted and I don't know what Matt did, but somehow, like you can't tell that in that episode I totally drop off and I'm totally off the episode for about eight minutes and before I can get back in, matt somehow just carried the day with the guests. I don't even remember what you did in that, but you can't tell. I think it was just Sam was the guest. I don't even remember what you did in that, but you can't tell.
Speaker 2I think it was just sam was the guest and and we just kept going and jacob's like, yeah, let's just keep going and see how long it takes greg to get back on, and so he edited out that little flip. But then we just and yeah, he salvaged the thing, but that was a comical because, of course, because it was on the tech episode yeah, that's what happened, which right're like how's this happening on this episode?
Speaker 1So favorite episode.
Speaker 3Mike, yeah, I think hands down for me and forgive me, I'm not going to remember the guy's name. This is years ago, but the opioid addiction episode that we did so good.
Speaker 1Voices of Hope.
Learning and Reflecting on Episodes
Speaker 3Yeah, Whether it was a podcast or not, it was just an unbelievably fascinating conversation. He, it was just an unbelievably fascinating conversation. He was amazing to talk to. I think you and I talked about this, greg. I had a lot of personal experience in my family with that, so it was kind of cathartic to talk about and get the perspective of who had the addiction versus the person who's around, the people that have the addiction and what that's like for them to put their family in that place, but then also how people should approach them versus how a lot of us do approach that kind of topic. Yeah, hands down was just. I mean you, I learned so much from him and I think it was a great episode, but I I just thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. So that's. We talked a lot of great people, but that was awesome.
Speaker 1Well, and you know, he's somebody. When I worked in Kentucky I met and it was like one of those people like when you meet somebody you're like. In Kentucky I met and it was like one of those people, like when you meet somebody you're like this guy has a message the world needs to hear more of. So I couldn't remember his name when I moved down here and actually called my old boss and said, hey, who was that guy? Again, what's his name? He has contact info and he was happy to do it.
Speaker 1So I encourage folks to go back and listen to that one. I think we've even rebroadcasted it. It was renamed think overcoming an opioid addiction or something along those lines and the original episode was voices of hope, which is the organization he works with to help people who are struggling with this stuff. So and we deal with that in our industry, unfortunately, is a lot of people get on narcotics or to deal with pain, which is a real thing, and then sometimes they have a hard time getting off of it and find themselves in some pretty dark places.
Speaker 3So it was a dental procedure. Man, like that's crazy. Yeah, and that's one of those episodes were like I don't care if you know where comp or not, like it's just applicable to everything in life. Uh, yeah, hey guys, he's impressive to listen to for sure matt, you favorite episode.
Speaker 2Yeah, I would say similar. The one that hit home and kind of connected with me was when Dr Alex Korb, so he wrote the book the Upward.
Speaker 2Spiral. So that one, I think because of the stuff I'm going through with some family members, hit home with me a lot of people struggle with and we talked about the complexities of comp. You know, and unfortunately, 80% or probably even higher volume of claims go through and you know they go through as an intended. You know how the claims happen, you know there's a natural progression. You know that you're off work or you have a surgical procedure, you recover. You, you know, return to work, but you know he was talking about. You know the claims that don't and you know you get stuck in this downward spiral and then, so you know, wrote the book, kind of the upward spiral, like your recovery when you're down in the dumps doesn't happen overnight. And seeing this from like a family perspective and kind of like what you were saying, like the opioid epidemic, similar, like you know the recovery isn't immediate and overnight, and just like so that one kind of hit home for me and with some of this stuff I'm going through personally, not myself, but you know, just with family members and seeing their kind of upward spirals, you know, and you know sometimes we don't recognize the down but then like people bottom out and they're stuck there and you know how you get them out of that and just so trying to help with some family getting out of that downward trend, and how do we get you back into like a productive member of society and back to not who you were before, but how do we get you back? So that was a kind of hit home and it made me look at things from a different perspective and was well needed and timely for me, because where I'm at with some family family so from that perspective it was a you know hit home. I thought, like we had jacob's dad on right, like that one was a good one, with him being, you know, a first responder and hearing, like his take on things, like you know, being the first, the first guy on the scene and you know, just all these things you don't think about from a work comp claim. Like how do you you know if you're the first guy on the scene or if you're even? You know so. Chris Meyer was another one. He was a recruiter, an insurance recruiter. It's probably our most downloaded episode but I think Chris did a lot of self-promotion on that one. But he did a great interview on, like how do you get people engaged in the insurance industry and get people wanting to be an adjuster and all these things. I mean there's been a lot of interesting spins on these episodes and I think people listen because of that that there is a broad and pretty wide spectrum from the insurance industry, that you have all these different things and we touch so many different things that happen in life. So there's a lot of interesting episodes.
Speaker 2Picking the favorite, I'd still go with the Dr Korb one for me. And there's lots of other great episodes out there. You know, the even like the guy with Fluffy was great and just there's lots of hard ones. I don't want to name them all, but they all have like I always take a nugget from each one because it's like hey, like it's learning or I'm learning something different or new. It changes some something, maybe a preconceived notion that I had before about something like the opioid stuff you're talking about, or even something about I want to say boring, but it's boring, as you know, msas or something like that.
Speaker 2So learning a lot you know, speaking directly with some of these folks and hearing that and hearing the injured employee stories. Yeah, I had the guy that had to really I'm blanking on his name now but the guy that had the hand amputation, that was a great one too and like his story in recovery and you know then now that he's working for the recovery center that he went to and things like that so yeah, timely.
Speaker 2And then I think during the podcast we knew and we kind of forced him to make the announcement, that his wife was having a baby and all this. So it was like great stuff and interaction, so lots of good stories and things like that through the years.
Speaker 1I agree with you, matt, and I love that episode with Dr Korb in that you know one. He said I have a hard stop at this time, and he was so engaged right down to the last minute I think he would have been late for his next meeting. He was so engaged in that and it was just. You know, it's fun when you're learning from somebody who's really passionate about what they do, and he obviously was, I think, for me, matt and Mike. I just enjoyed how many people I've met and how much I've learned and, like you said, I think I picked up little nuggets from so many different people that I use in the very first season, I believe maybe season two.
Expressing Gratitude and Appreciation
Speaker 1She was talking about pain, but she made this and I'm sure maybe she's the person who came up with this quote, but I've used it more times in my life in more different ways of that which we focus on, we enlarge and empower, and she was talking about it from a pain perspective, like if we focus on it, we make it bigger and then the pain's bigger and then so where do you want to put your attention? But I really felt like like that's just a true principle, that's like a life principle, that's not just a pain principle, and whether it's our work, our family or our hobbies, like, where do we focus? And what we focus, we enlarge and empower. If it's stuff that's not great in our lives that's causing us problems, are we giving it intention and making it bigger? Are we letting it go? And that was like a paradigm shift for me, and one that I have not forgotten. I don't know that the entire episode was the best of all our episodes, but that moment, for me, was a moment where I'm like, yeah, that's, that rings true and I'm gonna, I'm gonna do something with that. So well, I just I have to say I and I'm going to do something with that. So well, I just I have to say I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1Like there's no way this happens without tons of people, not only all our guests, which some of them you'll get to hear in this. We've invited them to share their congratulations, but this doesn't happen with a lot of other people behind the scenes. Cindy Housel is doing a lot of work on the blog that follows up. Gabriel Santos is in our marketing department. We had previous people like Taylor that was helping me set it up and Allison Marlowe, who helped in our marketing department.
Speaker 1There have been so many hands that have been involved in creating this, making it work and bringing it forward, and I'm just grateful myself for the experience that it's been. It's a lot of work, a lot of extra work, but when it's allowing me to meet the people that I've met and to go through some of the topics that we've been able to cover, for me it's been really worth it. I really like to always end on a positive note, so I'm going to keep it this way, and normally I have not asked the host this question. It's usually the guest, so I'm going to flip the roles a little bit and ask you, mike, as we wrap this up, what's something you're grateful for.
Speaker 3I'll go two things one related to this and one not. I think I'm just grateful for all the great conversations we have on this podcast, whether one person listens to it or 50. I always get something out of every conversation that I have, and that's something that I'm grateful for, because it's just, it's fun to talk to not only like-minded people but people that have different views from you and actually like engage and have a conversation and get something out of it. I mean, going back to what Matt was talking about, I love podcasts and things that I can apply to all aspects of my life, and so I get a little bogged down when something's just like an informational session. I like things that I can apply to all aspects of my life, and so I get a little bogged down when something's just like an informational session. I like things that allow me to think about okay, like yeah, this applies to my job, but like this also applies to everything I do every day, and so I'm grateful for that. And then, outside of this, I'm just grateful for my wife and my daughter. My daughter's in first grade and is like excited to go to school. My daughter's in first grade and is like excited to go to school.
Speaker 3We're sitting here on Sunday and she said is tomorrow Monday? And I said yeah, and she goes. That's awesome and that's a really cool attitude to have and it's not one that I admit I have all the time. I think as an adult you get so bogged down in like everything that's going on both work and not and to have her say that on Sunday was kind of a little bit of a jolt to me of like you can buck up sometimes, man, like every day is pretty awesome and it just it was. It was something that that hit me pretty hard, so I'm very thankful for that. I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 1I love that, mike. That is the best. That is great. Matt, you something you're grateful for.
Speaker 2Yeah, I would say, you know, not to be too generic, but I would also say my wife and family, my wife's Christy, and then I have three children Tommy, nick and Hannah. So I would say them and then obviously the extended family as well. And you know, there's a saying that we kind of say to my wife and kids, and we say this to our kids like what if tomorrow you don't have what you're not grateful for today? So then we start rattling off like everything, like oh, this cup, this spoon, this, and like that attitude I think we even talked about this one of these podcasts is like.
Speaker 2That attitude of like being grateful for it, for all the blessings that are in our lives, is an amazing feeling, like, and it makes you more grateful, for you know when things go wrong or you know when you, you don't have something like, it's like, well, we, we live, and most of us live, in a world of an amazing amount of abundance.
Speaker 2So it's just being grateful for all the small things and all the blessings that I receive in my life, for being able to do this podcast and being able to get to work every day, and like when you have that kind of attitude of like I'm grateful for that. It's like, well, when some somebody cuts you off in the morning, or when somebody's like honking at you because you've stopped at the light too long, it's like okay, you let it roll off your shoulders and you don't you know, instantly want to give them the friendly one finger salute or anything. So it's like just being mindful and being grateful for those things. So that's what I would say, like the two items are you know, my family and then you know, just, you know the abundance that I'm blessed with.
Speaker 2And I don't want to be braggadocious, but I think you know like we could all be grateful for the small things in our lives, like just find something simple and it's like, hey, if it's the guy that's sitting next to you or the woman in the cube next door, you know, whatever it is, there's lots of things to be grateful for. So, you know, I would say those are the things I'm most grateful for, the things to be grateful for.
Speaker 1So you know, I would say those are the things I'm most grateful for, matt. I couldn't agree more, and I just think you know sometimes maybe this is my 2020 dark view coming out but we spend so much time, a lot of times, focusing on things that aren't working or things that are wrong or things that are upsetting, and that's really what the news focuses a lot of time on what we don't have in common and what we can't agree on, and, in my opinion, the world needs a lot more gratitude in general, and if we want that, then we got to do it. So for me I don't know that I've ever answered this question the first thing I would say are people in my life who unexpectedly helped me in ways they probably didn't know, and I can remember just little things, like there was a scout leader. I was a Boy Scout, which I didn't actually like scouts much, but he would like go on business trips to Europe and other places and he'd always just send me a postcard and it was the smallest thing, but it made me realize that he was thinking about me when he was in Germany, or he was thinking about me wherever he was, and my mom would be like you got this postcard from so and so and I'd be like, okay, whatever. But like in the back of my mind I was like this guy's actually invested in me succeeding and like that meant a lot to me. And I got a chance to tell him that later in life, before he passed away, and he blew it off like it was nothing. But there are people like that in my life. You know that have had a mission president that really was tough as nails and beat me up a little bit but like at the same time taught me discipline and taught me things that I wouldn't have learned, that I didn't learn from my own family. And I had amazing parents too. But I'm grateful for those, those people that sound like the unsung heroes that do the little things that made me who I am outside of just my family. And then, of course, I would be remiss to not be grateful for my six kids and my wife. We've been married 20 years, lots of awesome things have happened ups and downs, and they're my wife for sure.
Speaker 1So I want to thank everybody for listening. This has been an incredible journey. We're going to keep it going as long as we can find interesting topics and interesting people to talk to. We're going to keep it going and just thank each of you for your support and listening. You know, if you have a chance I don't do this very often, but I would love it if you'd like it and add a positive review on Apple, itunes, those kinds of things, so that we can continue to have folks listen to this. We don't receive any monetary benefit from this, but I hope that as we get this message out, other people in the industry will find it, and that's one way that they will find it. So I just remind our guests to do right, think differently and don't forget to care. And that's it for episode 100. Thanks everybody.
Celebrating 100 Podcast Episodes
Speaker 14This is Chan Cox. I retired as CEO of Berkeley Industrial Comp in 2022. When Greg Hamlin came to me with the idea of creating a podcast focused on claims adjusting, I have to admit I was a little skeptical about the technology and the subject matter. Boy, was I wrong. It's been a tremendous success due to the innovation, creativity and compelling content. Congratulations to Greg and Adjusted on the 100th episode. My best wishes for continued success.
Speaker 15Hello everyone. This is Sam Nier from Berkeley Alternative Markets Tech here to wish Adjusted a very happy 100th episode. Just like any great superhero movie, like the Avengers, you need an amazing team to pull things together and save the world day in and day out. Just like Adjusted continues to save people from not knowing industry trends and the awesome things happening in claims. To Greg Hamlin, our amazing Avengers leader, thank you for continuing to rally the troops and facilitate, and to everyone who continues to contribute, from the co-hosts to the guests to even the audio people in the background, making us sound great. A big congratulations on 100 episodes and I can't wait till the hell. The superhero team continues to save the world one podcast episode at a time. Congratulations.
Speaker 6Hi, this is Raja Sundaram, the CEO of Plethi. Congratulations, adjusted Podcast on your 100th anniversary. There are two things I can look forward to every year. One is taxes on the Adjusted podcast every two weeks like clockwork. I've always been struck by the underlying theme of engagement with empathy with the injured worker. It carries through with every single guest that comes on and it's a thematic that Greg Hamlin and his leadership carries. It's a testament to his leadership. What a great learning resource for all of us. As many of you know, our team is geek and Greek. The geeks on the healthcare side of our house really look forward to the adjusted podcast episodes every two weeks to understand what on God's green earth the workers' comp side of our house is talking about.
Speaker 6So thank you for bridging that gap in our team. Congratulations again, greg. And the Adjusted podcast, 100th episode. What a milestone. Well done.
Speaker 16Hi, this is Becky Curtis with Take Courage Coaching and Pain Coach Academy, as well as Override, and congratulations on 100 episodes of Adjusted. That's really awesome. I was really privileged to do the third episode and I've really enjoyed listening to all the other episodes. What a lot of great education and information that you're putting out into the world. Thank you, greg.
Speaker 17Hey everybody, josh Schutte from Brooks Rehabilitation Jacksonville, florida and I am absolutely fired up when I heard about the legendary milestone of you guys recording your 100th episode. So I couldn't be any more fired up for you. So deserving and I love how you bring everybody together. You guys rock.
Speaker 5Howdy James Benham here, ceo of JV Knowledge and Terra, host of the Insure Tech Geek podcast and guest on episode 86 with Greg Hamlin and Sam Neer of the Adjusted podcast. Now, other than the fact that I first thought this podcast was about chiropractic care, I am super excited and congratulations on your 100th episode, greg. I couldn't have happened to a better guy that you'd have a wildly successful, tens of thousands of downloads podcast on workers' compensation. I think a lot of memorable moments getting to co-present with Greg on stage at a couple of different conferences and now a few different conferences and having a wonderful conversation with Greg and Sam on the adjusted podcast.
Speaker 5I love, you know Greg's phrase. You know if it'll blow you up, kill you, crush you, you know, then we probably ensure it. That's. That's certainly memorable. It's also memorable is is just getting a a great place to talk about workers' comp and all the interesting things, all the little nuances to this line of business and this industry that we chose, and certainly getting to hang out with some really great people and talk about insurance. Thanks for all the hard work. I, of all people, know how much work goes into producing and editing and recording and getting guests for a podcast. I've been podcasting for over eight years myself, and so I'm really excited that this is a big milestone for the podcast and for y'all individually. So congrats again, happy 100, and enjoy the ride and geek out.
Speaker 12Hey, congratulations to Greg Hamlin and the whole team at Adjusted Podcasts on your 100th episode. I am absolutely thrilled to have been one of your guests and I can tell you that the recording I got to do with Greg and with his guest co-host, michael Martin was so good I thought that I plagiarized from it. I've actually borrowed passages in our discussion to use in our own explanations of what we do. So it's great to have a focused podcast like you've put together, and I wish you a wonderful time on the next 100 episodes.
Speaker 7Hi everyone, this is Molly Callan, VP of Business Development with the IMA Group, and I want to send my heartfelt congratulations to 100 episodes of Adjusted. I was on one of the earlier episodes with Greg and it was a great experience and so proud of you, Greg, for what you've accomplished and the issues of people that you spoke to. So keep on grooving and moving ahead and best of luck. Congratulations.
Speaker 11Greg on the Adjusted Podcast team, you make workers' compensation both fun and interesting. As someone who is involved with Medicare secondary payer compliance, I know that is a high bar. Hi, this is Dan Anders, chief Compliance Officer for Tower MSA Partners. I heard Greg mention in one podcast that listeners' eyes may roll back to the back of their heads at the very mention of Medicare compliance, so I credit him with inviting me and others to discuss this very topic. I hope that sharing our journey through workers' comp and MSP compliance has instead opened people's eyes and provided them with information they can use to better manage claims and help injured workers. Congratulations to Greg, the adjusted team and Berkeley Industrial Comp on your 100th episode. Your podcast has been an incredible resource for the workers' compensation community and I'm sure it's inspiring others to join our community. Keep up the fantastic work.
Speaker 13Hi, my name is Natalie Torres and I am with the Kingstree Group and it is my tremendous pleasure to be here to share this. Congratulations to Greg and the Adjusted team for their 100th episode. Congratulations and cheers to the entire team and here's to 100 more and many more amazing episodes, Cheers.
Speaker 18Hey, my name is Mark Pugh. I'm provost and founding partner for WorkComp College and proud to be part of the celebration for the 100th episode of Adjusted. I still have my mug Episode 11, season one. I was pretty early on in April 2021 talking about medical marijuana. That has changed quite a bit since that point in time. Thinking back when I got the invite from this, I'm thinking of Greg Hamlin as kind of the Joe Rogan of workers' compensation.
Speaker 18I don't know that many podcasts probably most podcasts don't make it to 100 episodes. I mean heck, most of them don't even make it to 10 episodes. So the fact that you're celebrating 100 is a testament to not only the value that you have created over those 100 episodes, but also the respect that you show the instructors, the platform that you give to your guests and the wide variety of content that you cover. So I'm very privileged to have been a part early, a very early part, of this. I'm so proud of the whole Adjusted team in making to 100 podcasts and I look forward to another 100. I'm guessing that you can probably do that. I mean at this point, if you've done 100, might as well do 150 or 200 or 3000 or whatever you want to do so. Congratulations again, and I hope to see continue to see more and more podcasts come out and episodes from you guys that cover very relevant subject matter that's important to people.
Speaker 19Hi, this is Andrew Atkinson with Insurica, and I want to congratulate Greg and the Adjusted Podcast team on 100 episodes. It was a few years ago that I was able to be the guest host and had a great time doing it. We talked a lot about Berkeley Industrial Comp and the methodologies and the approach that Berkeley Industrial Comp takes towards workers' compensation and how it's so in line with the way that I look at it, the way that I deal with it, putting the EMOD score and the value of the EMOD score at the forefront and I knew that I had a good team in this whole game that we call the insurance business, most notably the workers' compensation business, when I found the carrier and the team of adjusters and leadership that looked at this the same way that I do. So congratulations again on 100 episodes. It's been a lot of fun and I look forward to the next one.
Speaker 20Hi, my name is Wendy Goddard, with CareRisk Payment Integrity and I was honored to be on the very first season of Adjusted. Congratulations to the entire Adjusted team for 100 episodes. It's quite an accomplishment. Thank you so much for the incredible thought leadership that you bring to the workers' compensation industry through this podcast. Congrats.
Speaker 8Good morning. My name is Fernando Branco. I'm the Assistant Vice President for Claims at Midwest Employers, a Berkeley company, and I'm also the chief medical officer for Midwest, and I had the opportunity to work with Greg and Adjusted podcast. It was a privilege for me to do that work and Greg has put together a pretty amazing and innovative form of dialogue. That I consider being the way that he set it up the process. Greg is a natural as the host of Adjusted. He brings professional expertise and congeniality to the role. I'll be glad to continue to participate in this great project at any time he would like, and thank you so much for the opportunity and good luck for the future.
Speaker 21Hey, this is Hope Rometa, Director of Claims at Berkeley Industrial Comp. Congratulations on 100 episodes of Adjusted and I am super grateful to have had the opportunity to participate.
Speaker 9Hi Greg and team at Adjusted. This is Ryan McIntosh, avp and National Recovery Manager here at Berkeley. I oversee our subrogation and SIU efforts at Berkeley. It's been a pleasure working with you and your team for a number of years now. I was a guest on the very first season of Adjusted and enjoyed the opportunity and wanted to congratulate you guys on reaching 100 episodes. It's been a lot of fun listening and following along and I wish you guys continued success in the future.
Speaker 21This is Luella Alcorn with Berkeley Industrial Comp. I've accompanied Greg on a few of the podcast episodes. Congratulations on 100 episodes. I'm proud of you and all you've accomplished.
Speaker 10This is Carol Beerwagon with Berkeley Industrial Comp. I wanted to say congratulations to the adjusted team on your 100th episode. It's been an honor to be part of this amazing resource that's available to claims professionals, injured workers, employers and just those curious about our industry. I've personally learned so much from the adjusted guests and episodes and look forward to many more in the future. Congrats, Thank you.